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Date: - Wednesday,
April 29, 1998 at 12:25:55 (PDT)
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In reply to: Conor MacDermot Ref: New Web Site.
I had a 1st hit getting your new web page. Well laid out
and the map was very clear. Well done.
Michael Cheesley
Date: - Tuesday, April 28,
1998 at 13:34:51 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
I've just set up a new website which is intended as a graphical add-on to
Rory's (and Colm Corcoran's) current one. It's got lots of graphics, so it
may be a bit slow if you've slow modems- sorry about that, but graphics can
only be cut down to a certain size before they aren't worth looking at.
The site is at:
http://indigo.ie/~macdermc/index.html
I don't understand why there's no www in the URL, but if I put it in the
URL doesn't work for me.
I'd be grateful for feedback - criticism (constructive please) and comments
gratefully accepted. Sorry about all the pages with nothing on them, or just
criptic one-liners. They are ideas for things to come.
Conor
Date: - Tuesday, April 28,
1998 at 07:18:12 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
While working on the Ballykilcline project a person sent me the following:
Mary Ellen McDermott married Thomas Francis Carey on 14 Feb. 1875 in Auburn,
IL. She was born in Co. Rosscommon. Her husband was born 15 Jan. 1846, Co.
Clare and he died Pocatello,ID 6 March 1912. Daughter was born in Pocatello,
ID. I have a contact relative if this McDermott fits your family.
Date: - Friday, April 24, 1998
at 14:00:52 (PDT)
----------------------------------------- Ref: Greenwaxing According
to OED, greenwax: Sealing wax of a green colour; hence b. a seal of green
wax, such as was affixed to documents delivered by the Exchequer or sheriff
c. ...document beqaring this seal; d. the fines .. exacted in accordance
with such a document.
It is not listed as a verb, but I would guessa that greenwaxing would be
forging or counterfeiting a document.
Date: - Friday, April 24, 1998
at 07:34:15 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
WHILE SCANNING SOME KILMAINHAM GAOL RECORDS YESTERDAY, I
SPOTTED A MCDERMOTT IMPRISONED (ALONG WITH A GROUP) FOR
THE CRIME OF "GREENWAXING." DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS TERM
REFERS TO? THIS OCCURRED IN THE EARLY 19TH CENTURY. PERHAPS
THEY WERE VOICING NATIONALISM A LITTLE TOO FERVENTLY!
Date: - Wednesday, April 22,
1998 at 18:50:06 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
I would appreciate any info from anybody that has ancestors tha we born in
or migrated from Co. Donegal before 1850. My GGgrandfather, Cornelius, (as
in his son Hugh's obituary) was born in Co.Donegal. Cornelius was in the
US near Baltimore, MD in 1852 when Hugh was born. Cornelius married after
emigtating to the US. If anyone has any info on Cornelius, parents, siblings,
time of leaving, I would be very appreciative.
Date: - Wednesday, April 22,
1998 at 15:46:24 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
No, I not talking about the Irish pound? I would like to invite you to visit
http://gardening-ireland.com It's a brand new Irish site, dedicated to.......,
gardening. Do drop in and sign the guest book. But please come back to the
MacDermot site, or Rory'll have me guts for garters.
Regards to all
Colm
webmaster for macdermot.com
Date: - Sunday, April 19, 1998
at 16:04:53 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
Posting message for Frances who is looking for information on a Francis
McDermott,born ?1886 in Roscommon. Francis emigrated to either Scotland or
England in his youth. He is known to have joined the English navy,and fought
in the Boxer Rising, He is known to have settled in Devon,England following
his second marraige. It is believed he may have been married to an Ann Marie
Brennan. Any information re. his family in Roscommon would be gratefully
recieved. Thank you.
Date: - Sunday, April 19, 1998
at 01:16:04 (PDT) ----------------------------------------- Ref: Notices of 4 Apr '98 and 1 Apr '98
More information sent on by John McDermott
This is to add a bit of information to the query of Conor MacDermot concerning
coal mining in northeastern Pennsylvania. Many immigrant Irish found employment
as laborers in Pennsylvania coal mines in the mid 1800s
(following the famine). Experience in coal mining was not necessary, the
only ability needed was a strong back and the willingness to work for nearly
nothing far below ground. These miners worked a twelve hour day, six days
a week. They lived in company houses and were required to deal at the company
store. At the end of a pay period, they usually owed the company money. In
response to these injustices they formed a group known as the Molly Mcguires.
A Father Francis McDermott administered the last
rites to the leaders of this group before they were hung .
This area still has a large Irish population. Many McDermotts are found
there.
My Grandfather, Thomas McDermott, an attorney, served as legal counsel for
the United Mine Workers, a union representing these miners.
John McDermott
Date: - Saturday, April 18,
1998 at 13:32:04 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
Francis McDermott, bc 1810, resided Franklin Co NY (right on the Canadian
border)during the 1830s-1850's. He married c 1834, Nancy McBreen(?). Their
children were bp @ St Regis Mission: 1835-40: Clement, Peter, Catherine,
& Matthew. Family moved to MI by 1860. Any McDermotts who lived in the
Malone area in the 1800's are probable relatives. I've got a lot of interesting
material to exchange.
Date: - Thursday, April 16,
1998 at 16:36:03 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
Would anyone like to see the Chat Room(s) resurrected?
I know it was a very much a hit and miss business getting to connect with
anyone
but I found it great fun on the few occasions I actually did make contact.
Perhaps a designated chat time-frame would help. Say 8-10pm Irish time
weeknights
Rory has suggested I post a message to see if anyone is interested. So here
it is.
Is anyone interested? Jo McGahey.
Date: - Monday, April 13, 1998
at 22:19:00 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
Slante !
Congratulations, all Irish near and far. We have an agreement! Only time
can test its durability, but faith and courage will only feed its strength,
while fear and doubt will only diminish its power. For the while, let us
celebrate knowng that those fortuitous few who write themselves into history
by the minute have, through God's grace, brought us to a moment in time,
a turning time, where we can embrace peace and never let go. Let its clench
keep us from falling, and together, forever. Euphoric? Yes, sir!
Date: - Monday, April 13, 1998
at 20:34:14 (PDT)
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In reply to: myself Ref: Bruce McDermott
My memory is excellent but short.
Date: - Monday, April 13, 1998
at 20:31:54 (PDT)
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In reply to: Bryan McDermott
Bryan, I found this information at the Saskatchewan Genealogical
Society's library. I am sure that there must be the same
kind of service near or where you live. The naturalization
information was located in a book I think called "Early
Naturalizations in New York" which detailed all of the
court applications for naturalization. The information on
who was looking for whom came from a collection of 3 books
called "Lost Friends", which is a compilation of ads in the
Boston Globe, an Irish paper, for the years from 1830-1860.
Someone had kindly indexed the last names and I spent a morning
looking up M(a)cDermot(t)s, trying to find out some info on
my late great-great grandfather Lawrence Andrew McDermott.
Date: - Friday, April 10, 1998
at 19:44:23 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
Where did you find the "seeking" and "naturalization" notices? I am in terested
in Naturalization of Cornelius McDermott in April 1840? Are there "lists",
archives available for naturalizations in the early to mid 1800s?
Date: - Friday, April 10, 1998
at 15:10:20 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
Walter Gaines McDermott,my grandfather, was born 18 Sep 1866 in Drew
County,Arkansas.As a jeweler he installed the clock in the courthouse in
Hamburg, Arkansas. He had a brother, Perry living in Memphis Tn in 1914.
Walter's father ,Charles C. McDermott was born in 1814 in West Feliciana
parish, Louisiana. His father was Bryan McDermott, married 30jul 1799 in
Natchez mississippi, died in West Feliciana parish La in 1819. His Father,
John McDermott is crux of my question for help he was from Ireland and that
is all I know. If you can help me with any of these, I would be much
obliged.
thanks
Mike
Date: - Wednesday, April 08,
1998 at 13:24:00 (PDT) -----------------------------------------
Would Frank McDermott of New Brunswick who has requested information
relating to membership of the Clan Association please let
us have a) his email address or b) his postal address as we
are unable to reply to you without either of them.
Thank you Frank.
Date: - Sunday, April 05,
1998 at 11:41:28 (PDT)
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In reply to: anita heston duvall
Dear Anita
Thank you for your enquiry. Dermot was my Grandfather.
We know that there was alink between MacDermot and o Hoistin
but I do not think we know precisely what that link was.
Whilst the book "MacDermot of Moylurg" is certainly comprehensive
in its treatment of most subject I see that the index contains
no mention of your name. This might mean either that the link was
considered too tenous or uncertain or that it fell victim to
editorial decision.
I shall see if there is any form of detailed mention of the
o Hoistin name in his papers. This may take some time.
Yours sincerely
Rory MacDermot
Date: - Saturday, April
04, 1998 at 10:59:01 (PST) -----------------------------------------
Rory: Have I missed a link on your wonderful website, or
have you devoted any info on septs and sub-septs of the
the MacDermotts? I am currently reading the book
"MacDermots of Moylurg" at the local college library (they
won't allow anyone to take the book out of their library -
so it slow going). But I am enjoying it immensely, it is
so rich in history. In 1988 I read "Herald The Chief"
which included Dermot MacDermot, I presume to be your father,
We corresponded and he replied that O hOistins (my family)
possibly could have "...allied themselves
with the MacDermot establishment.." in Mayo. This according to
MacLysaght. I am fascinated by this possibility.
Can you comment any more on this? Thanks very much for help.
anita heston
Date: - Saturday, April
04, 1998 at 10:27:57 (PST)
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In reply to: Conor Macdermot
Dear Conor: How very nice for you to respond with good detail re coal
mining.
Martin Ward (1859-1902)was a stone mason who apparently used his skills
to make walls in mine shafts in northeast Pennsylvania. So, strictly
speaking,
he was not a miner. When I do my historical writing for the
family history I will leave my children, I really want to let
them know about the personal sides of their ancestors - not
just dates and places. Even if Martin Ward never was a miner
in Ireland. I may never know for sure, but I like to try to
put flesh on the bones of those I write about and you, in your
kindness, have helped me with background info. My thanks to
you once again. The Irish are so warm and so kind. Makes
me proud to be one of them (even tough American born. I will
try to read up on Connaught Coal Fields now that I know they
existed. Again, thanks very much, Conor. Anita
Date: - Saturday, April
04, 1998 at 06:11:57 (PST)
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In reply to: Anita Heston-Duvall
At the time your grandfather must have emigrated coal mining in Ireland occurred
(not in a big way) in the "Connaught Coal Field", on the borders of Sligo,
Roscommon and Leitrim. Part of this area appears as the Arigna Mts. on the
map of Moylurg accompanying the article "From Moylurg to Coolavin". Coal
mining also took place near Castlecomer, in the Leinster Coal Field.
Both areas have ceased production in the last 10 years.
There is no direct link between between the occupations of miner and stonemason,
but in the Sligo-Roscommon-Leitrim area a considerable amount of sandstone
waste was produced as a by-product of the coal mining, providing raw material
for building, hence used by stone masons.
Date: - Friday, April 03,
1998 at 16:18:43 (PST)
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In reply to: Sharon Lyon I have been unable to email you even by replying
to your message.
Thanks for your help on my great grandmother Mary Ann Doran. I
do not know when she married or even her husband's first name. I know
he was a McDermott and they had children, one of whom, my
grandfather Miles, was supposedly born in Astabula Ohio. I
am trying to locate a birth certificate for him. She could
have married in Ohio or Canada. My grandfather Miles was
born in 1876 according to his marriage certificate. He worked
for the railroad in Arkansas when he married my grandmother.
Date: - Friday, April 03,
1998 at 11:25:27 (PST)
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In reply to: MA Horn Ref: re. Maria Mc Dermott, Cashel
Dear Mary Ann
A Henry Mc Dermott died at Cashel near Castlerea in 1922 aged 80.
His sister-in-law was a Bligh, according to the death certificate. His father
was Thomas, son of Bryan of Cloonlee, just south of Ballinlough, who had
also been married to a Bligh and whose will I posted on the notice-board.
According to a Deed of 1871 [ 22 140 ] Thomas Mc Dermott left lands at Scregg
and Cashell to his sons, William, Charles and Henry, £500 each to his
daughters Ellen and Maria and an annuity of £30 to his wife. He had
mortrgaged the lands in 1862 to a Michael Rice. William, his eldest son,
sold the lands ( 190 acres, excepting 4 acres already sold to the Great Northern
Railway Co.)to Hugh Mac Dermot of Coolavin, Co Sligo for £1220, paying
off the mortgage. Hugh Mac Dermot leased the lands to Edward Dalton. Witness
to this deed was Michael O Brien of 16 Lr Ormond Quay in Dublin who married
a great grandaunt of mine, Jane Mc Dermot, in 1876. I presume the Maria above
is your great grandmother. Who was she living with in Scregg in 1901?
A Bernard McDermott of Cloonlee was buried in Castlerea in 1812; he had some
connection with my family, I think.
Date: - Thursday, April
02, 1998 at 16:24:28 (PST) -----------------------------------------
Seeking any information regarding Joseph John McDermott b c 1812
Dublin. Parents may have been Michael and Mary but later research
now adds the possibility that JJ's father may have been a Joseph McDermott
who is
registered in the Dublin business diectory for that time as
occupation "Louisa Draper" Was there ever such a trade? Or did someone say
at the time of recording "O ee's a draper" as has been suggested.
Oral History says the family went to Limerick when JJ was four years old.
He later joined the Merchant Navy. I have already posted the rest of his
history.
Date: - Wednesday, April
01, 1998 at 16:15:09 (PST) -----------------------------------------
Can anyone tell me if there was mining in Ireland?
Mayo-Galway-Roscommon or Sligo? Grandfather came to USA as
a mason, went into anthracite mining. He must have had ex-
perience as a mason in Ireland. How can I find this out?
I will thank you all in advance for any suggestions. anita
Date: - Wednesday, April
01, 1998 at 10:51:41 (PST)
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In reply to: Margie Smallfield
Your maps aren't lying - there is no City of Tullaghan in Ireland. However,
I have located 8 townlands with that name (Townlands are the smallest named
land parcels in Ireland, generally between tens and hundreds of acres in
extent).
Tullaghan Co. Leitrim Barony of Rosclogher
Tullaghan Co. Monaghan Barony of Monaghan
Tullaghan Co. Laois Barony of Portnahinch
Tullaghan Co. Roscommon Barony of Castlereagh
Tullaghan Co. Roscommon barony of Frenchpark
Tullaghan Co. Sligo Barony of Leyney
Tullaghan Co. Westmeath Barony of Kilkenny West
Tullaghan Co. Westmeath Barony of Moyashel & Magheradown
Source of information- Census of Ireland - General Alphabetical Index of
Townlands, Parishes and Baronies of Ireland, originally published 1861. This
was reprinted 1984 by the Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc of Baltimore,
Maryland. Library of Congress Catalogue Card Number 83-82450.
HOWEVER, in case you feel dispirited by all these counties, there is a "District
Electoral Division" of Tullaghan situated in northwest Co. Leitrim, between
the towns of Sligo and Donegal. This seems more likely to be the one you're
looking for, as it is a more sizeable administrative area.
What surname did your great uncle have? Smallfield doesn't sound very Irish.....
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